GARTH: Miller: Enough Is Enough

GARTH: Miller: Enough Is Enough
- garth

I find it amusing that the owners are trying to appeal to the fans, when all we are to them is a rat going for a pellet! Do they really think that we believe they care about us? Pegula may be different..... but i don't know. Jacobs , Illitch , Leonsis are owners who like to make money, why wouldn't they? The small market teams have to have a bigger hand in this lockout that or the big boys above have much bigger influence than i realize.... Have they even considered the players offer as something to work with, or is it they're intention to have it all they're way again?

I just read my first "Garth Blog" since the lockout... the very first sentence has a spelling error! Some things never change.

GARTH: Miller: Enough Is Enough
- garth

If the players really want to partner with the league, then they should share the losses not just the profits. No business can survive with 57% payroll expense.

I think it's kind of ironic how after the last lockout everyone thought the owners won by a mile. Now looking back the players were the real winners of the last 7 years. They recouped the rollback in 1 year and almost doubled the average salary over the length of the deal at the owners expense.

Not sure how anyone can blame the League for wanting to change the CBA for a 50/50 split. I understand the owners need to take responsibility for the contracts they handed out, but the market parameters just don't make sense anymore.

In what business besides the NHL do the employees make more than the owners?

Miller is full of BS and so is Pegula. And you know what, there is nothing wrong with that. They both want a piece of what is best for them and there is nothing wrong with that. I know that I feel the same way...

In what business besides the NHL do the employees make more than the owners?
- Enzomatic

None?

Sad that Miller doesn't see the deal that is there to be made without a lockout.

It has been there the whole time if they wanted it. I'm waiting for the players who love the game and want to play to say enough is enough.

In what business besides the NHL do the employees make more than the owners?
- Enzomatic

I believe the answer to your question is: Any business that is losing money.

I know that during a strike, employees can cross the picket line and leave the union.

Can the same be done during a lockout? Can players leave the union and say that they want to work for an employer?

That might be the fastest resolution. Get rid on unions.

"If they showed us they have respect for the game and respect for the players the deal would come much sooner than using a lockout to hurt us."

The average salary is 2.4 million and you're currently getting 57% of revenues, not operating income... Tough to be disrespected huh

I love how so many NHL players are suddenly business experts...

Players have lost 6.7% of their pay... It'll be 100% before too long.


They'll show the owners!!!

Oh look, another player insulting my intelligence. What else is new?

Mr. Softee.








That is all.

If the players really want to partner with the league, then they should share the losses not just the profits. No business can survive with 57% payroll expense.

I think it's kind of ironic how after the last lockout everyone thought the owners won by a mile. Now looking back the players were the real winners of the last 7 years. They recouped the rollback in 1 year and almost doubled the average salary over the length of the deal at the owners expense.

Not sure how anyone can blame the League for wanting to change the CBA for a 50/50 split. I understand the owners need to take responsibility for the contracts they handed out, but the market parameters just don't make sense anymore.
- Oglethorpe

word.

Stop it Garth - Ryan Miller is not rank and file - neither are the other idiots that you mentioned. They made a fortune playing a game, more than any of us will ever make in our lifetimes they are making in their early twenties, much less when they are UFAs. I am sick and tired of your pandering to these guys trying to turn fans against the owners. The old man owners allowed this league to be where it is today.

Really, who cares what that also-ran of a goalie thinks. His sorry ass is as expendable as anyone on this team, send him to Detroit and get rid of the whiner. The problem with the players is that they think that they are the product, the product is the team in the city I root for and called home for thirty years. If the Sabres had Lucic on this team - he would be the king - you name the player, if he helped our team win, that player would be the man in this town. The owners could say the same back to Miller, if you had respect for the integrity of the game and the money that the owners allow you to make as a grown man who plays a game for a living, then you, the players would respect the money that I put up to keep this team in Buffalo and make it a place where people should want to be. Greed, players look in your mirrors. I see very few players take a "home town discount" once they get to free agency. That is the player that respects the people that pay his salary and wants to win rather than cash in.

Please don't toy with us......cancel the season now!
You know it's going to happen. Any group (owners AND players) that has to wait for October, cancel the preseason and now the first 82 regular season (which is 1 full season for a NHL team) doesn't deserve to have a season at all.

Sorry but I'm really not interested at all anymore!

I love how the players seem so hurt they are locked out. They have known for a long time that if there is no new CBA done they wouldn't be playing. When will they get realistic and try to negotiate.

Pretty sick and tired of hearing players sob stories... Another prime example of a player acting like he's above this whole lockout, wait, the NHL could just cry river and say "if they players really wanted to play and cared about the fans THEY'D sign our offer". Anyone can say that, if I owned a business, i wouldn't want 57% of my profits going out the door, I'm the one footing the bill for the arena, the concessions, the PR, the ads, trying to fill the building (players do help with that), and selling season tickets. The owners are taking ALL the risks, players come out every season with the money no matter what. The owners took a whole season for the last CBA to get what they wanted, now all it needs is a change in number not a completely different layout. What do players know about economics, pretty sure they NHL has a whole department dedicated to that. Spare me this banter and show some class PLAYERS, the owners sure are.

The owners are at fault here. There's no reason to have the fourth stoppage in 20 years. They put a gun to the players heads last time and this time the players seem to have resolve.

How would you like to have your pay reduced 25%, then sign another contract, approved by the owners, only to have them whine that they gave you too much money?

Bettman and the owners are the ones to blame in this. Good for Miller and anybody else that's good enough to make millions a year in the NHL. Anyone whining about what they make have no idea the challenges they overcame to get there and stay there. It's not like a factory job where any idiot can put screws in a dryer for $20 an hour.

The real enemy is the greedy owners who are not getting more franchise money to split up, don't have a decent US tv deal and cannot seem to accept the fact that they alone created this problem by trying to circumvent their own rules. Luongo? Depietro?

Fire Bettman, get rid of about 25% of the teams, dump the damn instigator penalty and get on with it!

In what business besides the NHL do the employees make more than the owners?
- Enzomatic

In what other business are the 'employees' also the product?

In what other business are the 'employees' also the product?
- DeanoTPS

You're kidding me, right?

The owners are at fault here. There's no reason to have the fourth stoppage in 20 years. They put a gun to the players heads last time and this time the players seem to have resolve.

How would you like to have your pay reduced 25%, then sign another contract, approved by the owners, only to have them whine that they gave you too much money?

Bettman and the owners are the ones to blame in this. Good for Miller and anybody else that's good enough to make millions a year in the NHL. Anyone whining about what they make have no idea the challenges they overcame to get there and stay there. It's not like a factory job where any idiot can put screws in a dryer for $20 an hour.

The real enemy is the greedy owners who are not getting more franchise money to split up, don't have a decent US tv deal and cannot seem to accept the fact that they alone created this problem by trying to circumvent their own rules. Luongo? Depietro?

Fire Bettman, get rid of about 25% of the teams, dump the damn instigator penalty and get on with it!
- mr-b

So you think 57/43 is a good split? 57% of revenue mind you... Not profits.

By get rid of 25% of the teams, do you mean relocate or actually get rid of? Actually getting rid of 25% is not possible.

I like what Miller is doing, go directly at the source. Bettman is a puppet and an easy target. Bad mouth him all you want, it's what they pay him for. I would have been more impressed if Teemu had called out the Samueli family or if Toews had called out Rocky Wirtz. They are the true source of this mess.

BTW, someone did call out the Samueli's in a national newspaper today.
http://www.usatoday.com/s...l-games-canceled/1613447/